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The Marriage Trap (http://slate.msn.com/id/2087897/)
A new book wrestles with monogamy and its modern discontents.
By Meghan O'Rourke
Posted Wednesday, September 3, 2003, at 5:01 PM PT



The classic 1960s feminist critique of marriage was that it suffocated women by tying them to the home and stifling their identity. The hope was that in a non-sexist society marriage could be a harmonious, genuine connection of minds. But 40 years after Betty Friedan, Laura Kipnis has arrived with a new jeremiad, Against Love: A Polemic, to tell us that this hope was forlorn: Marriage, she suggests, belongs on the junk heap of human folly. It is an equal-opportunity oppressor, trapping men and women in a life of drudgery, emotional anesthesia, and a tug-of-war struggle to balance vastly different needs.

The numbers seem to back up her thesis: Modern marriage doesn't work for the majority of people. The rate of divorce has roughly doubled since the 1960s. Half of all marriages end in divorce. And as sketchy as poll data can be, a recent Rutgers University poll found that only 38 percent of married couples describe themselves as happy.


What's curious, though, is that even though marriage doesn't seem to make Americans very happy, they keep getting married (and remarried). Kipnis' essential question is: Why? Why, in what seems like an age of great social freedom, would anyone willingly consent to a life of constricting monogamy? Why has marriage (which she defines broadly as any long-term monogamous relationship) remained a polestar even as ingrained ideas about race, gender, and sexuality have been overturned?

Kipnis' answer is that marriage is an insidious social construct, harnessed by capitalism to get us to have kids and work harder to support them. Her quasi-Marxist argument sees desire as inevitably subordinated to economics. And the price of this subordination is immense: Domestic cohabitation is a "gulag"; marriage is the rough equivalent of a credit card with zero percent APR that, upon first misstep, zooms to a punishing 30 percent and compounds daily. You feel you owe something, or you're afraid of being alone, and so you "work" at your relationship, like a prisoner in Siberia ice-picking away at the erotic permafrost.

Kipnis' ideological tack might easily have been as heavy as Frederick Engels' in The Origins of the Family, Private Property, and the State, but she possesses the gleeful, viperish wit of a Dorothy Parker and the energetic charisma of a cheerleader. She is dead-on about the everyday exhaustion a relationship can produce. And she's diagnosed something interesting about the public discourse of marriage. People are more than happy to talk about how unhappy their individual marriages are, but public discussion assumes that in each case there is something wrong with the marriage—not marriage itself.

Take the way infidelity became a prime-time political issue in the '90s: Even as we wondered whether a politician who was not faithful to his or her spouse could be "faithful" to the country, no one was interested in asking whether marital fidelity was realistic or desirable.

Kipnis' answer to that question is a resounding no. The connection between sex and love, she argues, doesn't last as long as the need for each. And we probably shouldn't invest so much of our own happiness in the idea that someone else can help us sustain it—or spend so much time trying to make unhappy relationships "work." We should just look out for ourselves, perhaps mutually—more like two people gazing in the same general direction than two people expecting they want to look in each other's eyes for the rest of their (now much longer) lives. For this model to work, she argues, our social decisions need to start reflecting the reality of declining marriage rates—not the fairy-tale "happily ever after all" version.

Kipnis' vision of a good relationship may sound pretty vague. In fact, she doesn't really offer an alternative so much as diagnose the problems, hammering us into submission: Do we need a new way of thinking about love and domesticity? Marriage could be a form of renewable contract, as she idly wonders (and as Goethe proposed almost 200 years ago in Elective Affinities, his biting portrait of a marriage blighted by monogamy). Might it be possible to envision committed nonmonogamous heterosexual relationships?

Kipnis' book derives its frisson from the fact that she's asking questions no one seems that interested in entertaining. As she notes, even in a post-feminist age of loose social mores we are still encouraged, from the time we are children, to think of marriage as the proper goal of a well-lived life. I was first taught to play at the marriage fantasy in a Manhattan commune that had been formed explicitly to reject traditional notions of marriage; faced with a gaggle of 8-year-old girls, one of the women gave us a white wedding gown and invited us to imagine the heartthrob whom we wanted to devote ourselves to. Even radicals have a hard time banishing the dream of an enduring true love.

Let's accept that the resolute public emphasis on fixing ourselves, not marriage, can seem grim, and even sentimentally blinkered in its emphasis on ending divorce. Yet Kipnis' framing of the problem is grim, too. While she usefully challenges our assumptions about commitment, it's not evident that we'd be better off in the lust-happy world she envisions, or that men and women really want the exact same sexual freedoms. In its ideal form, marriage seems to reify all that's best about human exchange. Most people don't want to be alone at home with a cat, and everyone but Kipnis worries about the effects of divorce on children. "Work," in her lexicon, is always the drudgery of self-denial, not the challenge of extending yourself beyond what you knew you could do. But we usually mean two things when we say "work": The slog we endure purely to put food on the table, and the kind we do because we like it—are drawn to it, even.

While it's certainly true that people stay in an unhappy relationship longer than they should, it's not yet clear that monogamy is more "unnatural" than sleeping around but finding that the hum of your refrigerator is your most constant companion. And Kipnis spends scant time thinking about the fact that marriage is a hardy social institution several thousand years old, spanning many cultures—which calls into question, to say the least, whether its presence in our lives today has mostly to do with the insidious chokehold capitalism has on us.

While Kipnis' exaggerated polemic romp is wittily invigorating, it may not actually be as radical as it promises to be: These days, even sitcoms reflect her way of thinking. There's an old episode of Seinfeld in which Jerry and Kramer anticipate most of Kipnis' critique of domesticity; Kramer asks Jerry if he and his girlfriend are thinking about marriage and family, and then cuts him off: "They're prisons! Man-made prisons! You're doin' time! You get up in the morning—she's there. You go to sleep at night—she's there. It's like you gotta ask permission to, to use the bathroom: Is it all right if I use the bathroom now?" Still, love might indeed get a better name if we were as attentive to the intellectual dishonesties of the public debate over its failings as we are to the emotional dishonesties of adulterers.

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whoooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo! Beau, its gonna take me a little while to finish reading all of this so I will get back to you later ight! icon_lol.gif
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SherSher wrote:
whoooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo! Beau, its gonna take me a little while to finish reading all of this so I will get back to you later ight! icon_lol.gif

lol.........same here icon_lol.gif


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SherSher wrote:
whoooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo! Beau, its gonna take me a little while to finish reading all of this so I will get back to you later ight! icon_lol.gif




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LOL take your time all, and by the way this was an article that my wife found and wanted me to share it with KC. So here it is feel free to comment as I said before. She believes that one way to make a marriage work is to allow each individual person to grow and be happy in the relationship. You cannot have one person dominating the relationship, cause once you have that the one being told what to do will eventually get bitter and you know the rest.
I agree on that as well, you have to be confortable and understanding to the other persons need.
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I agree with you Beau, In a relationship, there should be individuality as well as unity. There should NEVER be domination. I dont wanna say that all haitian guys are like this but most of my haitian girlfriends say they will NEVER marry a haitian guy because they are so dominiring. I beg to differ but it is true sometimes.
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NOT I my wife does as she please as long as it is not hurting me in anyway then she deserve to persuit her goals as she please. And thats visa versa. It is true I have brothers that are older and married as well. They let they wifes take care of the house and claim thats its a woman job and they will not touch anything inside the house.

I will do the exterior,, meaning cut the lawn, vacumm, mop, dishes, laundry, the bed, everything you can think of, Except cooking. I dont know how to cook so I do not do it. All the above we usually share the work load, meaning I do everything while my wife claim that they was too many dishes thats why it took her so long.,,lol.

Dont get me wrong they are things that I suck at, but I wont put them out there.
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BEAUSOLEIL wrote:
NOT I my wife does as she please as long as it is not hurting me in anyway then she deserve to persuit her goals as she please. And thats visa versa. It is true I have brothers that are older and married as well. They let they wifes take care of the house and claim thats its a woman job and they will not touch anything inside the house.

I will do the exterior,, meaning cut the lawn, vacumm, mop, dishes, laundry, the bed, everything you can think of, Except cooking. I dont know how to cook so I do not do it. All the above we usually share the work load, meaning I do everything while my wife claim that they was too many dishes thats why it took her so long.,,lol.

Dont get me wrong they are things that I suck at, but I wont put them out there.

you know what,Beausoleil I have so much respect for you,Iam not trying to kiss ass,but youre the first haitians guy whoSE pROUD OF HIS FAMILY,TALK ABOUT HIS WIFE SO MUCH thats a good thing,in my entire life Ive never seen,heard anybody like that you keep it real though you have a picture of your whole family in here, bravo.gif you just don't see that everyday,hey much props example for some of my haitians brothers out there,keep it up.
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you know what,Beausoleil I have so much respect for you,Iam not trying to kiss ass,but youre the first haitians guy whoSE pROUD OF HIS FAMILY,TALK ABOUT HIS WIFE SO MUCH thats a good thing,in my entire life Ive never seen,heard anybody like that you keep it real though you have a picture of your whole family in here, bravo.gif you just don't see that everyday,hey much props example for some of my haitians brothers out there,keep it up.[/quote]

Yea Beau. You are one of a kind! bravo.gif bravo.gif bravo.gif
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LOL well thank you ladies, its really a reflection on her as well. she a good women so I treat her so. when you have something good you best treat him or her right, or you might just wake up one day and they might not be there anymore. Meaning they got tired of your games and left or remain in the relationship to get you back.

So to make it sample it takes two. and thanks again ladies.
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